Wednesday, May 10, 2006

Patty Columbo - the baddest girl in Chicago's Northwest suburbs







This past weekend marked the thirtieth anniversary of the brutal murders of three members of a middle-class family in Elk Grove Village by one of their own kin. On May 4, 1976, Patricia "Patty" Columbo and her sleazeball 37-year-old boyfriend, Frank DeLuca, busted into her childhood home killing Patty's parents, Frank and Mary, in cold blood, along with Patty's little brother, Michael, who was just 13.

The murders were an embarrassment to Chicago's Northwest suburbs, long touted for their excellent schools, sprawling lawns and wholesome family values. The Columbos' neighbors refused to cooperate when police came knocking on their doors asking if they had seen or heard anything unusual the night of the murders. Instead, residents locked their doors and closed their drapes to the melange of news media, cops and police tape strung around the innocuous split-level home that Frank and Mary Columbo had purchased new in 1964, like the hundreds of thousands of other young couples fleeing the city for the good suburban life at that time. The sight of police detectives bustling in and out of the house did not even draw a crowd of curious gapers waving to the TV news cameras behind the field reporters broadcasting their live reports from the sidwalk in front of the Columbo house.

After DeLuca shot Frank, who had been killed first as he tried to escape by running up the living room stairs, Patty bludgeoned her father with a bowling trophy. Mary was found cowering in the bathroom - her favorite room in the house where she had once lovingly hand-painted each bathroom tile with gold filigrie - who had been shot dead center between the eyes. Patty or DeLuca slit her throat just in case the bullet didn't take care of her, although the Cook County medical examiner said that Mary was probably dead before she even hit the floor.

The last victim was Michael, who had slept through the initial gunshots. The two woke Michael up and stood him upright half-alseep in his bedroom while DeLuca shot him. Patty then stabbed Michael 87 times with her mother's sewing scissors. When police found Michael's body, they said on first glance it looked as if Michael had had a case of the measles, until they realized that the "measles" were dozens of tiny red gashes.

This is the detail that always amazes me. After finishing their carnage, Patty and DeLuca turned on the furnace inside the family home and set the thermostat at 97 degrees to hasten decomposition. The next morning, DeLuca showed up as usual to his job as a Walgreen's pharmacist at Elk Grove Village's "Go-Go Center" strip mall.

The bodies weren't discovered until three days later on May 7, when a village police officer showed up to inform Frank that one of the family cars had been found in a poor, black neighborhood on the city's West Side. (Patty and DeLuca wanted to stage the murders to make them look like mob hits or the work of black street gangs.) Noticing the front door ajar and undelivered newspapers piled up on the front step of the otherwise immaculately landscaped home, the patrolman pushed open the door and saw Frank's body sprawled across the living room stairs with a piece of the bowling trophy sticking out of his gashed skull, and immediately radioed for backup.

For the next eight days, Patty roamed free. (Frank would not be arrested for the murders until that July.) Police were amazed at Patty's "Frederick's of Hollywood" getup and her heavily made-up face when she was summoned to the Elk Grove Village police station to be told of her family's murders. Instead of rushing to scene after learning that her entire family had been slaughtered, Patty began helpfully offering potential leads of her father's supposed mob ties, who she claimed ran a mob chop shop for stolen cars behind the auto parts store that he managed in the city. (Frank Columbo's alleged ties to organized crime were quickly discounted by detectives, and Frank was vindicated as an honest, hardwoking, devoted family man at wit's end with his headstrong daughter.) Village detectives immediately smelled a rat.

The detectives quickly established roles for themselves to make Patty crack. Instead of "good cop, bad cop," one of the detectives described as looking like Tom Jones, assumed the role of "boyfriend." At her family's wake and funeral, Patty flirted openly with the detective, to the point where her grieving relatives thought he was the despised DeLuca who had alienated Patty from her family. (DeLuca skulked unnoticed in a corner of the funeral home.) When Patty wasn't joking, smoking or flirting, she flung herself on top of her parents' and little brother's closed caskets, wailing with grief.

A few days later, Patty was charged with three counts of first-degree, premeditated murder. The cops determined that Patty had originally set out to hire "hit men," a couple of losers she met in a motel cocktail lounge, to murder her family. She had even gone so far as to draw a map of her parents' house, along with a warning that the family's white miniature poodle was a "yapper." After the supposed "hit men" had strung Patty along, having sex with her and ripping her off of $2,000, Patty persuaded DeLuca to help her carry out the job.

For the next year, Chicagoland was riveted by lurid front-page headlines of group sex, betrayal, bestility (DeLuca had filmed Patty with an 8mm movie camera having sex with his German shepherd) and evil. The public learned of Patty's seduction when she was 16 years old, working the lunch counter at the Go-Go Center where DeLuca, a suave, 36-year-old married father of five, lured the pretty teenager who he thought was of age, into a sexually-charged affair that allowd DeLuca to fulfill all of his sick fantasies. (At one point, after Frank Columbo threw Patty out of the house, she went to live with the DeLucas. Patty would blow DeLuca while his wife and children froliced outside in the family's above-ground swimming pool.)

Patty was no angel herself. Her father was a controlling, Old World Italian whose ideas of raising a daughter meant locking her in a room until marriage. Patty had been the apple of Frank's eye, until the birth of her little brother when Patty was six. Frank's attentions soon focused on his male heir, and Patty became just another broad. While neighbors marveled and often commented on Patty's almost excessive doting on Michael, it was apparent that she had long harbored a seething hatred and jealousy for her brother, unleashed by the mutilation of his body. Patty had also been arrested for running up thousands of dollars on stolen credit cards, for which Frank made restitution. Still, Patty scorned her father by running to the arms of the despotic DeLuca.

The next summer, Patty and DeLuca were tried and convicted of the brutal murders. The public seemed fascinated by Patty in particular, who prosecutors had pegged as the violent crime's mastermind. She was beautiful, and could have been anyone's pretty daughter. Both were ordered to serve "indeterminate" life sentences of 200 to 300 years. Soon after, Patty and DeLuca broke off their ties after each was sent to a separate prison to beging serving their sentences. Since then, Patty or "Trish" as she now likes to be called, has become the first inmate in the Illinois Correctional System to earn a bachelor's degree, as well as the state's longest-serving female inmate. During the 1980s, she was busted for running a "prostitution ring" at the Dwight Correctional Center, pimping off fellow female inmates to prison guards. She has cleaned up her act, however, becoming a model prisoner and tutor for illiterate convicts.

Patty is also the subjet of two books, the laudable "Dad, Mom, Mike and Patti," and the more marginally successful but notorious, "Love's Blood" by Clark Howard, an eccentric whack-job who lives in a creepy, Addams Family-house in Uptown, and was rumored to have fallen in love with Patty while interviewing her behind bars. (Following the book's publication, Patty allegedly dumped the author, her interest mainly being in the candy bars and chips that he purchased for her from the prison's vending machines.)

In the book, Patty claims she was molested by a family friend, her "godfather." "Love's Blood" is full of raunchy, molestation scenes in the back of her godfather's candy truck. Patty also claims that she was deathly afraid of her father's temper, who she said would fly into blind rages during Cubs games at supposed strategic blunders by Cubs manager, Leo Durocher.

Patty Columbo has always intrigued me. We both attended high schools just a few miles from each other at the same time during the mid-1970s. Six months older than me, I knew a million, pretty, hot-to-trot chicks, some of them Italian American princesses just like Patty. A girl in my freshman art class who was a dead ringer for Patty, ended up becoming the barely legal mistress of a well-known pop singer whose character was recently whacked on "The Sopranos" after we graduated. Like Patty, I was 19 years old when the murders occurred, reading the grisly accounts in the Chicago Daily News while riding the bus to community college. I even had a little brother the same age as Michael Columbo, and could not imagine myself stabbing him 87 times with a pair of sewing scissors, as much as I would have liked.

I shared a lot of commonalities with Patty, growing up in the same middle-class suburbs where jet planes from O'Hare International Airport constantly screamed overhead, browsing and shoplifiting cheap earrings from the same suburban shopping malls. I immediately understood how the usurping of her family position - from doted-on little girl to undervalued female child after the birth of her brother - sewed the seeds of her pathological dysfunction, because I also grew up in such a household. With just a few flicks of the neurological connectors that prevent most of us from becoming family killers, I, or any or my friends, could have just as easily become Patty Columbo.

Patty, now a haggy 49-year-old, is up for parole on June 1. As the thirtieth anniversary of her family's murders comes to pass, Patty claims she is rehabilitated of her twisted adolescent self, during which early sexual molestation colored her view of men and the world. She says that she is full of remorse for the violent rage that granted her the three wishes she had most hoped for when she was 19, the deaths of her father, mother and little brother.

She also purports that the lead detective in the case, Ray Rose, who led a sophisticated investigation unheard of for an inexperienced suburban police force in the pre-DNA era, is as much a victim of her heinous crimes as her family, "only he survived."

It's hard to follow Patty's logic on that one. What distinguishes her upcoming parole hearing from all the rest, is that this time there is a glimmer of hope that she will be released. Given the number of stab wounds in her little brother, I don't think that Patty has even begun to serve her sentence. Before she was incarcerated, she never traveled outside of Illinois. Given the opportunity, she may have eventually broken herself free of her co-dependence on DeLuca and reconciled with her family. All that remains of Patty's short, free life are the faded 8mm images of her making it with a dog.

219 Comments:

Blogger Village Blogger said...

The "Go Go" Walgreens is no longer there. The mall was razed and a new freestanding Walgreens is near its old spot.

http://www.elkgroveblog.com

6:28 PM  
Anonymous LindaS said...

Rainey- I actually laughed at the way you wrote this article! I don't remember thinking anything about the murders was funny but the way you present your facts I found very humorous. I think I enjoyed your style of writing because you put light humor when discussing a crime that was committed against our family. I think my Mother would have loved to read this blog.
Thanks I needed that. Linda S

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OpenID KeikoasMom said...

I have never read so many erroneous "facts" in one story!
Maybe you should read the trial transcript (all 15,000+ pages) and I'm not sure where you are getting the other info. Flirting with detectives, maybe, I suppose you got that from the detectives?
I hope it wasn't from the papers, because every story ever reported on this crime was wrong.
But then, it was only published to sell papers, right?

5:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I read the book and know that a fellow employee of FD drove the car on the night the family was murdered. This employee also confessed to EG police prior to PC and FD being arrested. This isn't mentioned in the book. The bloody clothes PC and FD wore were burned in the incinerator at WG after the murders.

9:55 AM  
Anonymous mary said...

my mother and her siblings along with her parents of course lived across the street from the columbos... and my uncles were good friends with mike... the night of the murder one of my uncles was going to spend the night there but Mikes father said that it wasnt a good night to do so... i rmr hearing this story wen i was a little girl, i just thought it was another one of those stories my mom would tell us to make us not want to stay out... but 10 years later i seen the 30 yrs. behind bars trish columbo air on fox... and i was amazed!!! shame on her!! i think 200-300 years is a perfect sentence for taking her family'f life!!!

11:26 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

what a wacked out child

8:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

time for patty to be on parole ...her parents would want the best for their child and she has changed.

12:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

let god forgive her ...she can do more good outside of prison helping kids prevent the mistakes she made....

8:45 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kevin says


First off I went to school with Patty
Columbo. Some of your facts are off the mark. First of all the mall is and was never called "The Go Go" mall. And there is no coffee shop next to the Walgreens. There is a coffee shop at the other side of the mall. But Patty never worked there. Also Patty was the gal in blue as they reffered to them in the old days. She worked the cosmetic counter there. Just a little heads up on your information.

1:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The only one who has the right to condemn her, has already forgiven her. Judge not lest ye be judged. There's only one judge, and you're not him. What gives you the right to judge her? Let him among you who is without sin cast the first stone. I don't know about you, but I got no stone to throw. Also, should you choose to write on this topic again, at least take the time to check your facts. You condemn patty for her sins, yet you bear false witness against her. She has enough to answer for without you adding more. There's so much good in the worst of us, and so much bad in the best of us, that it doesn't behoove any of us to talk about the rest of us. Let's leave the judging to God. He's the only one qualified to do it.

11:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was communicating with Mike "Blue Mule" Columbo on that night. We were members of a local CB radio club. Channel 7 was our other "home". "CJ-5" was with us and the plan was for a late night gab fest. The up all night theme of 25 or 6 to 4 by Chicago was a focus of our conversation. Mike indicated that Patty and Frank were at the Columbo home. They already owed Mr. Columbo a lot of money but wanted more. Mike told us by means of his CB radio that there was an arguement in which threats were made. Obviously Mr. Columbo said "no" to more money. After a short time Mike was ordered to turn off his radio. A few minutes later he turned it back on and whispered in a sense of panic. That's the last I heard from my friend. For Eternity. Patty Columbo and Frank DeLuca planned to harm the Columbo family by arming themselves. They intended to inflict grievous injury by slashing, stabbing and shooting three people. Would you mind if Patty Columbo was sitting next to your teenage daughter at the Elk Grove Cinema watching a slasher movie? I didn't think so. aka Jack Frost

12:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

she deserves to die there for the rest of her life, she should have gotten the death pentaly.

11:38 PM  
Blogger mydearshirley said...

Patty is my cousin. Even though I lived in the south,the families would visit back and forth a couple times a year. I saw how Patty was treated as a child..that is where the bond was broken..perhaps I will publish the book I wrote..that still sits on my bookshelf..and all will know exactly what happened and why..but so far....only speculation..and what Patty shared with one of the book writers....was fantasy.
Shirley Andrews

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Anonymous Shirley Barnes(formerly Andrews) said...

After all this time reading old comments about Patty and what everyone thinks happened...still makes me sick. You all including the so called boy wonder Ray Rose...have no idea what really happened..but I know.
One day later on in the year....I will publish this book...It's time now...My passion is telling the truth,but my main reason is to see my cousin walk out of prison and spend what little time she has left...perhaps just enjoying the sunshine as a free person...as her family in heaven would want...
As for the above article by someone who said they were my sister...believe me that was not her....nothing that happened or is said now...is funny. Believe me we have never laughed about what happened...

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

You really have a lot of your facts wrong. I was part of a class that got to review the crime scene photos and Rose was the teacher for this class. THe idea behind the class was to see the ways in which police process a crime scene. The "measles" you talk about were not mentioned. The scissor stabbing marks were very evident in the close-up photos, right through the t-shirt Michael was wearing. Mrs. Colombo was not killed in the bathroom. It is believed she was in the bathroom when she heard the commotion with her husband and came running out, not even enough time to pull up her pants. She was killed in the hallway leading from the bathroom to the family room. DeLuca was not a pharmacist. He was a manager at Walgreens. I shopped that store regularly and he was scary and intimidating, even before hearing of this crime. Patty worked the make-up counter and helped my mom many times with make-up. She appeared to be very kind in her role. There was no diner. There was a "Corky's " restaurant attached to Walgreens on the east side of the store. Eventually, that was closed and Frontier Family Restaurant opened in that spot, but was not attached to Walgreens anymore.

6:57 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They both should have gassed, hung or fried. Think how much it has cost to house, feed and clothe those assholes for all these years.

9:00 PM  
Blogger Mizz Jane said...

I did time with Trish on 2 occasions, and let me tell you...as far as being "Criminally Minded"...the woman is a Mastermind. She may be well educated, but dont be fooled. She has tremendous pull there. Still just as manipulative, scandelous, and always plotting, as ever...lol.

9:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I met patti in dwight correctional center. She has done many things for herself since she has been incarcerated. She spends most of her time trying to help young women inmates appeal their sentences in order to get home to their children and families. I completely believe in forgiveness, however, I do not believe that 30 years is enough time to serve for murdering your own family.

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Anonymous above ground pools said...

Oh my god! What the hell is happening now a days. Even now family members are doing such a heinous work. The killer should not have space in even hell.

12:19 AM  
Anonymous Shirley Barnes said...

It's been more than 34 years now since the tragic deaths of my family members. The public forgets to realize that forgiveness is only ours to give..not anyone else's. My entire family is Christian and we all loved the Columbo family,but most new of the harsh discipline that Frank doled out to Patty as a child,perhaps it was his Italian heritage,but for my aunt..she lived her early life in poverty with an abusive alcoholic father...she was unable to disagree with her husband as was everyone else. He was not one to differ with. You all can make your speculations..but you do so as outsiders.
I can tell you this....Patty went there alone and shot them after a confrontation between she and her father...then Deluca was called to come and help her...he is the one who did the rest to cover up what she had done..those of you who are Italian and remember the old days...you know that both Patty and Deluca's fear of Columbo's threat to them...was very real and in time it broke them..but their were things going on behind the scenes the public does not know or is able to fit into the picture becuase you do not know.
She is coming up for another hearing...we as her family...though some prefer to not be reminded of what happened....prefer to just let this go away...and the best way that is to happen is for her to be paroled to live out her life...I know Pattys' family...they would want that for her...if you believe in heaven...they seek no vengence..they live in peace and know that justice has been done...and she lived her life as a prisoner...but a remarkable one...she has done more to help those around her than a lot of us out here free to help others but have chose not to.

5:48 AM  
Blogger Barbyr said...

Here it is 35 years later and Patty and Frank are up for parole again!
The detectives who worked the case are going to Dwight to protest her parole.

10:52 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do you know the address? I bought a house right by there.

11:02 AM  
Anonymous Shirley Barnes said...

It it is amazing what people think they know....Frank graduated from Pardue University and was a pharmacist and the manager of the store. Patty had her first drink after communion and started to wear makeup like her mother...wearing the lastest styles. Patty was taught has a young girl to be the Princess as she was called by her dad. She was a flambouyant as her father. There was a lot more going on than anyone knows...no one knows what happened between them and what happened that night but me and them....all the little scenarios are just that...make believe because they don't know...so they made it up. Only a fellow Italian can possibly know the depth of fear they felt and the depth of honor and devotion that existed within each family...once someone felt betrayed...not one minute was spent not looking over your shoulder. She was a young woman...a teenager with two powerful men in her life..one trying to protect her and the other thinking he was protecting her....only a man who was scared out of his mind would risk losing his life and his children...why are you all so damn shallow.

4:03 PM  
Blogger musselman_t said...

LOL!! All you phonies in the comments claiming you are relatives and whatnot. LOL!!

Patty and Frank murdered the Columbo's. Period. All of you people who claim to know what REALLY happened are fools. We know what really happened. See above.

"oh, I'm Patty's sister or cousin or secret bff or whatever... I wrote a book explaining all...blah blah blah".

Put up or shut up.

"Oh, patty did SO MUCH good in prison, she's better than Jesus, blah blah blah...". - LOL! Yes, she provided MUCH happiness in prison by pimping out her fellow prisoners to the guards. I can only assume that this is what you are talking about. No doubt the guards were indeed very happy!! Kudos to Patty for bringing joy to the world!!

"Oh, Frank DeLucca was just a poor scared little lamb... boo hoo hoo...". - Tell me why a scared little lamb who happens to be an intimidating man in his late 30's wakes up a thirteen year old boy in the middle of the night in the boys own bed and stabs him EIGHTY SEVEN TIMES!!.

We can all play our little roles on the internet. My gut screams that you are clearly NOT who you say you are (Barnes). I say again - put up or shut up with this *alleged* book. And further your denegration of Italian Americans as people who cannot control themselves and run around committing murderous rampages at the slightest provocation is RASCIST and INSULTING.

You mention Frank being so scared of losing his family (boo hoo hoo), conveniently forgetting that he was BEEFING a sixteen year old girl while his wife and kids live/play under the same roof.- LOL!! Yes, he was CLEARLY a NOBLE FAMILY MAN!!

Patty and Frank BELONG in jail.

They could be released though, for all I care. Their crimes were 'crimes of passion', by which I mean its not like they will get out and kill again. They don't kill random innocent people or anything like that. They did what they did for a reason, however messed up. Thirty five years is a LONG time. Frank is an old man now, and patty is what, early 50's? They have paid DEARLY for what they did. Patty especially. her life has been in captivity. There is no way that she is the same lost kid she was at age nineteen. She could live on my street, and I would not care. Maybe she could even send some whores my way!! YES, RELEASE PATTY!!

btw - to person wanting house address, it is 55 E Brantwood. It's in the neighborhood east of Arlington Hts/Biesterfield rds. Not much to see though. just a house in what is still a pretty nice neighborhood. I've always really liked that area of EGV. Used to live just north off of Landmeier rd near Busse Woods.

HAVE A GOOD DAY!!

7:42 PM  
Blogger musselman_t said...

Okay, Barnes, you may be who you say you are (I've seen you on other sites).

This is the Readers Digest condensed version of yourself:

"...blah blah blah...Only *I* know what happened...blah blah blah...Maybe I'll tell, maybe I won't...blah blah blah...look at MEE!!!...blah blah blah.. NOTICE MEEE!!!....blah blah blah...I REALLY AM IMPORTANT AND BTW AMERICA SUCKS...blah blah blah...LOVE MEEEEEEE!!!..".

You are sick and should seek immediate help.

As I said in the last post, we KNOW what happened on the night in question. That 13 year old kid was stabbed EIGHTY SEVEN times. THAT is what happened. NOTHING else REALLY matters.

Write your book, though. You have at least one buyer! I'll pick up a copy for sure! Although it is true that nothing else matters after stabbing an innocent kid 87 times, it IS still worth looking at the situation in detail. If you have some special insight, then get it out there!! I for one am interested! I'm about 90 percent sure that your book will end up being mostly just an anti-America tirade with the Columbo murders probably more of just a sidenote, but hey, I'll buy a copy anyway! Anything is better than that book 'Love's Blood' by that idiot (I forget his name). He tried to make the book about himself. It had SO many *simple* errors that just SCREAM that the writer did no research (e.g. simple geography errors about Chicagoland - the streets of which he used to "prowl" in his dark and sexy youth). He built up to this supposed ending that we would NEVER believe!! It was Patty's account, and it was just SO incredible!! Oh the anticipation!! We simply would NOT believe it!! GASP!!!!!! ------> This big SHOCKER ending turned up being that patty shot some of them, and Frank stabbed some of them, or maybe they both shot the parents, and only he or only she stabbed the kid, or, umm, wait, they both did it together, uhh....

Frankly I forget. I just remember actually laughing. Its not that it was funny, and hell it could have been true. Its just that the 'unbelievable' explanation that was SO built up to was STILL Patty and Frank murdering the three victims!! It differed in only minor irrelevant details of who did precisly what. It changed nothing, and she would still be right where she was in prison!! Note that I am not faulting Patty for this, it was that stupid concieted writer who built up all this expectation - that she was innocent, basically. Alas, though, even by this 'unbelievable account' she would have been long since executed if she lived in a LOT of other states.

As for Patty herself, who am I to harbor resentment? It is a very bizzarre and disturbing reality that basically good people can do very bad things. I am NOT on the bandwagon that says she is a horrible person. At the same time, I do believe that a LOT of people should NEVER get out of prison. For example people who kill in robberies would be one class that should fry or languish in prison. Patty, though, was an exploited mixed up kid who made some VERY bad choices. I have to agree with ms. barnes that it is a family affair on some level - e.g. the victims were not random people working nights at a convenience store trying to scrape out a living or something. Like I said earlier, it was a crime of passion. She is not a danger to society in general. She never really was. I guess that is what it boils down to for me. I can't look at her with hate. For all I know we could have been best friends if the universe had placed us in the same space-time. I knew quite a few girls who were not really that different from Patty.

If I had a vote on the parole board, I think it would be time to let both Patty and Frank go. They have paid for their crimes. There is no bereaved family.

Regards - TM

10:02 AM  
Anonymous Shirley Barnes said...

To TM.....wow you started off bashing me really good,almost like you thought you knew me. At first I thought it was a kid writing it,but then right at the end...you actually turned around and agreed with me.....I am still wondering if that was a typo.
Yes I do believe I know what happened....who really cares...RIGHT?
20 years ago it may have been a big seller...but I didn't know then what I have known now for some time. Still....it doesn't matter....we all have to consider her age,the Italian influence,their individual backgrounds...and this fact....it's been right at 35 years since that happened and both have done the very best they could despite where they were at and Patty did an exemplary job...and no neither one of them are a threat to anyone....they both have been treated by the system with overkill..going against their own standards for incarcerating someone...people who have done far worse than they did...were let go between 10 and 20 years.
Releasing them...would bring an end to this for my whole family...an end..to never again have to endure another hearing dater. There were things going on side this family that the public does not know and the family does not want anyone to know.
As for a book....no,the time has passed for that. I was never interested in money for it....now we have myspace and facebook and other blogs....maybe I will just write it there....or maybe I won't...either way..it doesn't matter anymore.
Whoever you are....remember you don't know me....when you read my thoughts...you still don't know me,I wish you had not started your comment with insulting me and trying to hurt me...I can't say that it didn't bother me...it did.
By the way...nothing was ever funny...even if it was ridiculous what someone else wanted us to believe...it wasn't funny..
Shirley Barnes

5:30 PM  
Blogger musselman_t said...

Sorry if I was harsh. At first, honestly, I just thought you were one of the literally thousands of people just playing a "role" on the internet.

I still don't think that 'Italian heritage' is any kind of valid defense for murder. The statements that kind of set me off are things like "the police have no idea what happened...". Things like that. I take issue, becaue ultimately, the police were in that house, saw Micheals body stabbed 87 times in his own bed. I assure you they know EXACTLY what happened. They may not understand every aspect of WHY it happened, or precisely every detail of HOW it happened, but they know exactly WHAT happened - three people were brutally murdered by Frank and Patty. As far as 'who shot who', 'who stabbed who', etc., these questions frankly are not even relative to guilt. As an example, suppose that me and my buddies went out one night in my car that I am driving. We decide to rob a gas station. It is my role to stay outside in the getaway car ready to bolt. I never enter the station. Further, my friends GUARANTEE me that they will not hurt anybody. Yet, in the robbery, things go astray, and the station clerk is shot and killed. Suddenly there I am, no role in the killing at all. Well, when we all get caught, guess what happens? We ALL likely get the death penalty. The fact that I was in the car and not a willing participant in the murder and would never actually hurt a flea will NOT save me. I will STILL suffer the full penalty of 1st degree murder for my role. It is along these lines of reasoning that I do not really obsess over who did exactly what in the Columbo murders. It does not exactly matter. She was there and partook. Even by her OWN account, she is clearly guilty of first degree murder.

It's pretty clear, to me at least, that Patty suffered extremely serious sexual abuse. I am guessing that the 'knowledge' you have is something along those lines. You would probably be surprised at the LACK of surprise at such information.

In my opinion there ARE murders that clearly indicate a person basically has no soul. The Columbo murders were NOT such a case. They lack that element of random sadistic cruelty. This tragedy was a culmination of events that took place over years and years.

Flash forward to today, and there is just no way that she is the same kid who went into prison at age 19. Further incarceration serves no purpose. Delucca is more serious, but he is now an old man. He never did really represent a threat to society anyway. Thirty five years is enough time. He has already essentially paid with life for that night. Like I said before, either one of them could live on my street. It would not bother me at all.

Regards, Ms. Barnes. Sorry again if I was overly harsh earlier.

8:53 AM  
Blogger musselman_t said...

Oh, and for what it is worth, I just re-read my own posts, and they were indeed way over the top. All of my comments saying things like 'you are sick', and all of those "blah blah blah..." comments that I made, I am a bit emabarrassed. That was childish of me. Sorry.

9:00 AM  
Anonymous Shirley Barnes said...

To be honest I hesitated to open the blog site...but sorry doesn't comes easy for most folks....even though it made me feel terrible...when you said it....
I accept your apology.
One of the things that bothered me throughout all of this is...people will judge the rest of the family by what she did...and in fact some have. I guess the reason I wanted to write a book was to really make it a story about our family and where she fit into all of us...Her influence was mainly her experiences in Chicago and her Italian background...we in the south,were never exposed to any of that except when the Columbo's would come down for visits and tell us the stories that would give us goose bumps...sorry...all the gore and horror of the streets of Chicago...makes for an interesting part of the party. I just wanted somehow for people to know us...so they could see she wasn't all bad....what happened to her was a small part of who she is. I am proud to be apart of my family...good,hardworking people who would give you the shirt off their back....but Patty was the first one to graduate from college..she actually set an example for many of us to be the best we could be...here where freedom gives us a ticket to the stars.
Shirley

3:31 PM  
Anonymous Shirley Barnes said...

I too believe they are not now and weren't then a threat to anyone,except the man who made it clear to all that Patty was no longer a member if our family and that given the opportunity he would kill Deluca..they both heard those words. I have visited both in prison and use to write to both extensively. Deluca despite what the public thinks they know about him....he listens to opera and reads...keeps to himself most of the time...he wrote his side of the story and sent it to me...and of course Patty told me her side..and then there is what we know as a family...I have met the monster they call Frank Deluca and find him not a monster at all..
I wish for both of them to be released..what happened did take several years to reach it's boiling point...it was all about passion and survival. Columbo lost his little princess,Deluca lost his place as head of his family and Patty lost her innocense...all so very sad. I know my Aunt Mary would want her daughter to live out her life free and I want to be able to see justice admit..that justice has been served. Much worse murders than this have been commited in Illinois,yet those people walked free after less than half the time that Patty and Frank have served..and those were people that you said yourself would do it again because they have no conscience.
Shirley

6:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just wondering if u knew of a son frank columbo, might have had my grandma will not tell us much,.but I did hear that he got killed by his daughter, which I thought wasn't true but I might be wrong now, my grandmas lived in mosori, sorry cant spell tonight. and i heard he was a mobster. my grandmas family didnt approve. my dad says he dosnt care about knowing but i think he does and it would be nice to know for us too oh my dads name is dennis but i dont know if he stuck around long enough to know thanks Tara , my email is taralaws01@hotmail.com if there is any relevece to this please email me

8:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The comment from me Tara was for Shirley

8:55 PM  
Anonymous Shirley Barnes said...

Tara,I sent you a private email...The only children I knew of was my cousin Patty and Michael by my aunt Mary whom he was married to...but during those years...affairs,and married couples mingling with others was rampant...accepted then as the thing to do....and if people were to be honest about it....still is going on...so it is feasible that there is another child of Frank Columbo...I'll try to help if I can.
Shirley
mydearshirley@hotmail.com

5:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with TM. If you have proof she is not to blame then you are just as guilty as the 2 of them are. You are saying it was not her fault but you kept this info to yourself in an unpublist book. So you left her there to rott!!??
I will be at the hearing Michael was a friend. I was one of a few who were the last to see this boy alive.
Shame on you!!!!!!

4:53 AM  
Anonymous Shirley Barnes said...

dear you have completely misunderstood what I said...when I say I knew what happened and why...I never insinuated Patty was faultless...she and her parents had this love hate thing since her childhood...she was treated like an adult even when a child and actually began to drink with her parents when she was 13 and she dressed as her mother did...Mary loved makeup,fashion and her hair which was a platium blonde..but naturally a very dark brown. Patty followed in her mothers footsteps of using her femininity to get what she wanted in life. I always wondered why she was attracted to a man almost her fathers age...that blew my mind,but she did and in that day...sex....was very open with it. You had to live through that time to understand it.
My wish to put our families story out there is to show what our family went through...there was no conspiracy....just a flow of events that from her family here in the south to her family and life there....To tell you the general public who think you know...that you don't know....Patty is not a monster,never was and neither was Frank Deluca...they have served more time than they ever should have....My uncle Frank Columbo had as much to do with that night ending the way it did as anyone involved...it was his personality..to be tough....fearless..but sometimes your mouth can overload your ass...and it did...sadly many people were affected and sadly to never get over it...if one chooses to take a hard stand and be narrow minded and unforgiving...no one can change that...but I do believe there are many people who would be interested in.....the rest of the story.

6:33 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Shirley Barnes,

I hope that if you ever do choose to write this book you keep threatening, that you'll have a ghost writer. Your grammar and spelling are atrocious. One more thing, where is "Pardue University"?

5:20 PM  
Anonymous Shirley Barnes said...

Posting on the internet is not like the grammar in a book silly you......How could you not know where Pardue University is....?
As for the book....it will not get written about that with the storyline....I have a lot more to talk about....by the way several periods in a row are meant to make you pause for a second....as I do when I am talking...it gives you a moment to digest what I just said. Sorry you are such a bitter little thing....you should lighten up some,you really are no better than probably a lot of other people and especially not better than I.....as it would be difficult for me to be snippidy as you are...I would be far more honest...but only with the truth...not something said to just hurt someones feelings are purposely try and get them angry without good cause...you should really work on that pious attitude you have.

8:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have no issue with the 3 periods, I understand where a pause it meant...the name of the university is PURDUE...the question in my previous post was an example of sarcasm...

12:38 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why all the argument about whether Patty Columbo has been a model prisoner and deserves parole or not? I want to know what a human life is worth. Is a life worth somebody doing 20 years, 30 years, or natural life. What kind of message do you want to send to someone else who could kill in the future?

4:34 PM  
Anonymous Shirley Barnes said...

Patty Columbo is one of many who have taken a life or lives in this country....all fall under the rules and laws of that state correction system. It is expected that the law will be followed to set the standard when and how a prisoner is released and once they have completed all that is required of them..then the system can't just up and say...oh well....She is an exception to the rule and we are going to violate our own standards and deny her the right to be released according to our set of standards....many,many men and women have been released having done even worse things that what she did...released 10,15,even 20 years after they were sentenced..she has been in 35 years.
Every life has worth,but we have laws and they are expected to live by them just like we are...there is no exception there.

4:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

She and her "friend" Frank did this,yes, they should pay the Piper..as they are doing now.
why should they be free?

9:51 AM  
Anonymous Shirley Barnes said...

Paying the Piper....interesting the way you say that...passionate and very intriguet working of family dynamics comes into play here....general public not privy to as is most murder cases...this could have been averted had there not been so much pride and honor between the two rivals for Patty's life....Frank Deluca and Frank Columbo....both people loved her and had her best interests at heart..but the code of honor between the two got in their way and because they were unable to talk like two sensible men..they charged into one another...knowing full well only one would possilby survive...in this case ...both died..in fact everyone died..the only one who lived on in spirity is Patty and she made a big difference within the prison system which only she with her drive to be a leader and with strong maternal instincts gave her an opportunity to thrive...and thanks to her a lot of women who came through there....went back to their lives....better women.....that is why my dear one....paying the piper comes in many forms....have you ever heard of the piped piper....well in essence...Patty turned into one inside those prison walls....many women look up to her and thank her for all the help she gave them while they were there...and as for Frank Deluca....he has caused no problems in prison...has kept to himself,does his job as told and listens to opera and reads a lot...he too....a good man....all people involved...good people who stepped onto a runaway train..because of one thing>>>PRIDE>

10:19 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Patricia Columbo is in Dwight where she belongs for the rest of her life. She thinks by being part of the chapel "cult" and working at the mental health unit is going to help her come home. All she does is manipulate those poor mentally disabled girls into purchasing her commissary goods. She hasn't changed and that's why God will not release her into society. Dwight is where this monster belongs.

8:25 PM  
Anonymous Shirley Barnes said...

You seem to more about the inside than the outside....and you sound awfully jealous and very immature..she has come to accept where she is....and she has helped far more people than you ever will..sounds like you need some therapy to deal with the rotten breaks you got in life.

9:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whats honestly SAD is when you have family that's related to Patricia Columbo and so consumed in her life yet they don't pay attention to their own pathetic ones!!! When you have children you don't focus your attention on a pathetic murderer, you pay attention to your own 4 children. Being self absorbed has led you to the destructive path you've been on even before you had children. Mentally Ill is what you would call yourself but yet you continue to go down the wrong road almost in jealousy really that Patty has more attention that you. The only thing different between your cousin and you is that you did'nt kill your mother and siblings

3:18 PM  
Anonymous Shirley Barnes said...

Whoever you are...you are a coward...I am not consumned or absorbed in Pattys life...it is only a small facet of any interest I have in life...I am fully absorbed in my childrens as I have always been..whoever you are...you know nothing of my own life or my childrens....even if you think you do....you don't. You are nothing but a coward and someone who throws stones at others and a few rocks....because you are too cowardly to speak to them with honesty..one person to another...you have no idea what I do with my life or how I live my life....if anyone needs a life here...it is you.

8:32 AM  
Blogger Mike NQR said...

Patty's credit card theft was part of a ring of children she used. I was a next-door neighbor to one such 10 or 12-year old child and remember the story well enough. My best friend was also raised old-school Italian and he had a sister who wasn't treated I read on this blog. His family lived about a block away from the Columbos on Lonsdale. In fact, I knew and know a lot of old-school Italians with daughters who were never treated the way I have read here. Since I never knew Patty personally, I can't comment with any certainty; just putting in my own 2 cents on that score. I went to the same schools Patty did, being a year or two younger than her. Frank DeLuca once busted me, as a young boy, stealing a candy bar. He has a finger missing, I think the fourth finger, on one of his hands. (I add that statement to lend some credibility to the little real knowledge I have of Patty's life and my being a resident of the same general part of EGV as she was.) I remember Detective Rose but I'm in occasional touch with the daughter of one of the other detectives. She says that case really changed her father and he's now deceased. I won't mention his name but he was a good cop, as was Rose and all the cops there I used to know. I was away in the military when the murders happened but I received the Chicago Tribune in Ft Bragg a day or two late so I kept abreast of this at the time. Even in Jr HS Patty was a fox. All the boys would melt in her presence but she was a user and a tease from what I know of some of the boys a couple years older than me. There's a reference from a "family member living in the south" that her clan and Patty's clan used to swap family visits. Another part of the article says Patty never travelled outside of Illinois. One of those two statements is wrong. Lastly, I think Patty and DeLuca should rot in hell and never be released from prison.

11:45 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's been a long time, but when I was 16 I worked part time as a stock clerk at the Walgreen's in Bolingbrook Ill.
My boss was Frank Deluca he was transferred there because of the publicity, at the time I did not know about the murders and I never heard anyone say anything about them.
One day I made a mistake on a stock report and Frank put his hands ( all nine fingers ) around my neck and said he could kill me, he could see I was worried about my error and used the kill you bit as a dramatic way of saying lighten up.
A few weeks later I was leaving for work and my dad was watching the news and there was Frank in handcuffs being lead up the cook county court house steps I looked at my dad and said that's my boss. Anyway when I got to work ALL the female clerks were sad a few were crying Frank had a natural charm about him that pulled people in and to this day I just shake my head..
He is either a sociopath or A patsy

7:03 AM  
Anonymous Shirley Barnes said...

I get so sick of you...religious fanatics....please....you are far more dangerous than the worst criminal....Patty does what she does in prison because she has a kind heart....she realized that too late..but it is a family trait..that she could not escape from....as for Frank Deluca...I have met him twice and written him many times...he sent me the story of what happened all 75 pages of it...and I have heard Pattys...thought I love her now as always....Frank was definitely too honorable to face the shame of what he had gotten himself into...so saying he was a Patsy...I guess you could say that..because he is truly a kind man with the old school honor for his standing in his family...his head got turned...for many reasons....and both have paid a dear price....loss of their freedom and closeness with their family.....no one will understand,but I came to care for Frank...I saw the man he really is...not the story...but the real man.....no one ever wants to know the story from the mouth of the people involved..they prefer a third person to tell them what they think happened and then they go with the juicey....everytime...

6:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

these people are sociopaths and WILL hurt anyone who tries to stop them from getting what they want.Don't care how long they spend in prison.A sociopath can never change,period! "people do worse things and get out of jail sooner" what the hell is worse than slaughtering your own family?her family would want her to be free. HMMMMM her father was supposed to be an old school mean Italian but he would want her to be free after she and loverboy mutilated him and his family YA OK

6:09 PM  
Anonymous Shirley said...

Neither one of them are sociopaths...their behavior in prison confirms that. What was written was exploitive and very imaginative...if you were not apart of the inner family circle..then you have no idea what really happened and why.....you probably are a Christian....that explains your judgmental attitude.

8:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

their actions in and out of jail prove beyond a doubt that they are sociopaths. Any good they do in prison is for the express purpose to gain freedom. If you are a family member why don't you expend energy caring about the people who were murdered. Religion has nothing to do with how I,or anyone else judges people. There is good and there is bad. Shooting,stabbing and beating to death people makes you a bad person. No sense arguing with you,you will not change how you feel,I just wonder what your agenda is.

12:58 PM  
Anonymous Shirley Barnes said...

what happened on the night of May 4,1976 was horrible...what led up to it was also preventable...if these two people were truly bad to the bone with an agenda to be free by doing good things in prison..they would not have been able to pull it off for 35 years....your statement is ridiculous..and this is not arguing dear...and yes it does have to do with what you believe in....I personally believe that things happen sometimes to good people and passions can drive a good person to do things they would not normally do...I have seen BAD to the bone....and these two don't fall under that category.
As for agenda...she is my cousin...my mother and her mother were sisters....my interest in her is for family reasons..if she weren't my family....I would not give it much thought...what is your agenda...for making comments about people you never knew personally.

5:41 PM  
Anonymous Shirley Barnes said...

what happened on the night of May 4,1976 was horrible...what led up to it was also preventable...if these two people were truly bad to the bone with an agenda to be free by doing good things in prison..they would not have been able to pull it off for 35 years....your statement is ridiculous..and this is not arguing dear...and yes it does have to do with what you believe in....I personally believe that things happen sometimes to good people and passions can drive a good person to do things they would not normally do...I have seen BAD to the bone....and these two don't fall under that category.
As for agenda...she is my cousin...my mother and her mother were sisters....my interest in her is for family reasons..if she weren't my family....I would not give it much thought...what is your agenda...for making comments about people you never knew personally.

5:42 PM  
Blogger Mike NQR said...

To Anonymous: funny you should mention the hand on the neck thing. When DeLuca busted me for trying to steal a candy bar, he put one hand on my small neck, from the back, and squeezed in a way to prove who was in authority. He took my name and number and never did call my parents. That was a good thing because Dad would've skinned my hide but good. This would be around 1970 or so and I was about 13. I never knew he got transferred to Bolingbrook. I would later live in Romeoville from 1981 to 1994 when I relocated to Central Florida, where I still live and expect to stay right here.

6:36 PM  
Blogger Mike NQR said...

Shirley, I'm not sure who your last comments were directed at. One was definitely to Anonymous, but the other could just as well have been me. I wasn't verbally attacking you or the Columbo family. Like I said, I never knew any of them personally. But my best friend, for several years until his untimely death at the age of 18, in 1975, lived almost right behind the Columbos. I knew her as someone who knows people in the grade ahead in school. I also knew people who knew her well enough. I don't sit in judgement of what she's done while in prison, although there was that prostitute ring thing. That would have gotten more time added to her sentence if my memory serves me right but I'm a little fuzzy on that after all these years and I wasn't even in Illinois at the time of the murders. I recall correspondence, snail mail in those days, from friends who had told me they couldn't find front door locks anywhere in town. Lots of people never locked their doors up to that time in EGV. If I had been on the jury, after what I know from one detective, countless Tribune reports, and a book I read in 1994, after arriving in Florida and becoming reacquainted with yet another former EGV detective, I would have voted for the harshest sentence allowable under the law. Having voted on any sentence, I must presume that the jury doesn't intend for it to go light unless evidence can overturn the conviction completely. That has not happened and I have always believed in a full sentence for any felony. There's no attack nor Christian ideology involved there, just old-fashioned values we have lost in recent decades. Those would be the same old-time values you accredit to Mr Columbo.

6:48 PM  
Anonymous Shirley Barnes said...

Yes the comment was not attributed to your comment,but to the anonymous person...you explain who you are and I explain who I am....I do not sit in judgement of others unless I have first hand information. As for the prostitution thing....it is no different than the papers and the police not knowing exactly what happened or why it happened and then telling what they think....in the beginning Patty was frowned on not only by prisoners but prison personnel too...she quickly set out to proove everyone wrong about her...and has done an outstanding job in prison of showing the rest of us that you live your life according to your core beliefs....and Patty did just that...she reflects the rest of her family...who are all good people,compassionate and forgiving...not everyone is forgiving...I personally judge people not only by what they did,but what they are doing right now...and choosing to understand that life can really be a bitch sometimes...and when you are young...you don't realize that you have many options to work something out....

6:54 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Life can be a bitch and its tough to be young? explains away mass murdering your family. I hope your my judge if I get in trouble. What those two did doesn't give you enough evidence to say they are bad to the bone? Was Hitler just confused and under alot of passion? Wow! what about your aunt? Do you spend much time thinking about her or what was taken away from her? Amazing! You act like they made a little mistake. I wonder if you really are who you say you are. You don't act like you are who you say you are.

4:48 PM  
Anonymous Shirley Barnes said...

Yes that one night in their life and ours....was absolutely life altering for each and every member of our family and theirs...the Deluca's....One night does not make the person....the people who did this....reached a crescendo in their life....marked by outbursts of extreme aggression on the part of my uncle....we knew the Frank Columbo who slammed holes in the wall over baseball games and laughed about the violence in the streets of Chicago as he reinacted stabbings of innocent people....sure my uncle was a likeable guy....but he was street smart and pure Italian...he was afraid of nothing...but that does not mean that he was heartless....he had a teenage daughter that he did not know how to handle...he thought brutality towards her and any of her boyfriends was going to make things go his way...but pushing someone into a corner....creates one thing....FEAR...and fear is what drove that night to happen....You are an outsider...you could not possibly understand the dynamics of this family and if one us chooses to try and understand and then choose to forgive...then that is my right...and as a her cousin...I choose to believe...what led up to that night....was a one time thing...not planned,but very much regretted.
You doubt that I am her cousin...what would it take to convince you....

7:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

one sentence your uncle was a good guy the next he wasn't,come on. one night makes a person when they do what those two did. If my daughter was molested by a guy delucas age I would have done alot worse to him then your uncle did. your sympathy is misplaced. and that is unfortunate

12:29 PM  
Anonymous Shirley said...

My uncle was a good provider,a strong man within his circle of friends and was loved by our family...despite his harshness at times....we all have things about us that others don't like,that perhaps we should change...we get comfortable in our own shoes....Deluca did not go after Patty...Patty dressed provocatively promoted by her mother...it sent out strong messages to other women and men...she was still a girl inside,but new how to use her sexuality....that comes from your environment...You can not believe everything you read...that is your problem...in a court of law the prosecution will block the truth from coming out at every angle...will only introduce info that can be easily maniputlated to look the way they want it to....you are indeed nieve in the way our judicial system works...and hitting a man in the face with the butt of a rifle to me is cowardly,not the picture I had of my uncle....no one was more surprised than me that he did that...I have always believe in mediation...and you can not go on what you percieve from your angle...you have to meet someone acorss the table and talk it out...you will be surprised at what you find out...somehow the truth is always the hardest to swallow...its easier for most to believe the worst without even checking it out for themselves...that is why gossip destroys lives.
AND one night and one horrible mistake does not make the person...they both have prooved that...over and over...you are just too blind to see it or admit it...you are a finger pointer....try looking at your ownself in the mirror.

6:09 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

why didnt patty and deluca work things out over a table with your family members instead of killing them. what did that little boy do to deserve what he got. deluca was/is a child molester. how on earth is it cowardly to hit a guy with the butt of a rifle that molested your daughter? the only reason I keep going back and forth with you is because it is frustrating to see someone dismiss what those two did as a mistake and that they are really nice people!!!! you are out of touch with reality. thank god the parole board isnt blind like you,the whole damn world would be filled with killers. as far as the crime goes everyone knows enough about it to know those two are cold blooded killers with zero conscience. give them the same mercy they gave the victims

4:07 PM  
Anonymous Shirley said...

I do not dismiss what happened...you just don't know all the other things that actually happened and were never talked about..because it was knowledge only to family...and most of what was said...was not actually fact...but someones perception of what happened.
And no they are not cold blooded killers or serial killers,and no they would not have done it again...
Patty has prooved herself in prison..and Frank just pretty much minded his own business and did his job....no problems at all caused by him...after more than 30 years...they deserve only one thing...that Illinois follow their own standards of release...just like any other state...and not give more consideration to other prisoners who have actually done worse crimes and been released...some to do it again..because being a pedophile or a rapist....is not curable,nor are violent people who have lived a life of violence.

5:10 PM  
Blogger Mike NQR said...

I don't pretend to know what goes on behind closed doors, nor within a family that I knew of but didn't know. Anonymous, I think you don't know those things either. Why don't you give Shirley the courtesy to agree to disagree. Debating and blogging are one thing, even on a serious issue as this. But personal attacks are not warranted. I still believe Patty and Frank should remain behind bars until their last breaths but I certainly can't begin to put myself in another family member's shoes, i.e. Shirley Barnes. You believe you can? I've had plenty of demons to deal with in my own lifetime, including things from childhood other family members say never happened. But they weren't there to witness all the time. Give it a rest and deal with facts unless you have some real first hand insight. Even some of my own opinions here are rather secondhand since Patty was one year ahead of me in school but I have chosen not to baselessly attack anyone. I believe we both attended the same church as well, Queen of the Rosary, but again, crossing paths and being acquainted is not the same as knowing.

11:17 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

shut up mike. I know what I would do in her shoes. Make sure those two never get out of prison. I'll say it again.What is worse than slaughtering your whole family? Rapist and child molesters can't be cured,neither can sociopaths. sociopaths do well in prison because they know thats the only way to gain their freedom. And I don't care "if" they would ever kill again. They have done enough damage. Why even take the chance?Who needs them,let us law abiding citizens at least know that there are two monsters that will never get us

6:01 PM  
Anonymous Shirley Barnes said...

Mike I have not attacked anyone..all I have said is...being a member of our family...The Columbo family before death and after were always a big part of our family get togethers and discussion...I speak from knowledge becuase I do have it...it is not speculation on my part..and yes...agree to disagree....I am all for that....I answer these little comments becuase they are sent straight to my in box...otherwize I would never know what is said..I never make comments about things I know nothing of...what good would that do...on any subject.

9:05 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

he was directing his comments at me not you.you have a hard time grasping things dont you? that can be a problem.Maybe that is your problem with this murderous event. you seem to keep saying that you know certain things that could change peoples minds. well lets hear it. Bet there isn't anything

12:30 PM  
Anonymous Shirley said...

Anonymous...you are the one who hides who you are...so much better that way..you can be rude,crude and immature...and get away with it...you are like a person who makes obscene phone calls....not much different.
I don't need attention...I have a fulfilling life doing the things that bring me joy...children that I love and a lot of life left for me to do something that makes a difference in this world....what could somebody like you do that is worthwhile? You spend a lot of time being critical and judgmental...Your point is to be as obnoxious as you can....you achieved your goal...and frankly I am bored with it...you offer nothing beneficial here...but venom..and I for one have heard enough.

7:22 PM  
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I'm a law professor working on an article about symbolic evidence, but I'm also a former attorney for Child Protective Services. Before even reading the comments of cousins, etc., the first thing I thought on reading this story is that this woman was horribly abused as a child. People don't get the kind of attachment disorder that it takes to commit a murder without some kind of awful abuse or neglect. And if the facts of the blog are true, Patti experienced statutory rape. Moreover, no teenage girl in her right mind is going to have sex with a dog. That's the behavior of someone who has been severely abused. This story is just so sad. Where were all these condemners when this girl was a child? Where are they now when social services for children needs funding? Why does our society wait for tragedy to get so compounded to do anything? It seems that Patti is just a convenient person to blame because people don't want to have to pay their own tax dollars to stop these things from happening in the first place.

She committed a crime, and she should be incarcerated for that to protect society.

But where was society when crimes were committed on her?

5:08 PM  
Blogger Mike NQR said...

Anonymous: So now you attack me? It's easy to see the kind of person you are from your first post, way back when, at the top of the page. I agree with you on the two staying behind bars. Where we differ is your obvious callousness against a member of Patty's family, alleged or real, and your personal attacks on anyone who disagrees with you on any matter under the sun. You are one sorry individual.

6:47 PM  
Blogger Mike NQR said...

Shirley, I know you haven't attacked anyone. I was addressing those remarks to "anonymous" who has shown him or herself to be a completely sorry excuse for a human life. You and I disagree on whether Patty should be freed or not. So be it. I agree to disagree with you because I'm a reasonable person. As I said, I can't begin to imagine living in your shoes. I can't imagine being in a lot of other peoples' shoes either, but that's no reason to spew animosity, as "anonymous" does just for the sake of doing so. By now, you've probably forgotten this person's first writing on this page. It's 3rd from the top and immediately shows this person's sickness and thoughtlessness.

6:54 PM  
Blogger Mike NQR said...

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7:10 PM  
Anonymous Shirley Barnes said...

I never post as anonymous...never. And I am not a law professor...I never said that either...I said I went to school for criminal justice...As for who you are...and who you were back when you were a child....I could care less,just as you don't care at all really about then or now...you have a personal opionion based on...an observer of news and acquaintances..but you still are AN OUTSIDER....you may be kind in your observations or cruel as many are....but I take the high road.....I don't point fingers and I don't wish harm on anyone....much different from you.

7:18 PM  
Blogger Mike NQR said...

My negative comments were for the one who calls him/herself "Anonymous," not at you Shirley. I know I'm an outsider and basically said so in different words. Peace be with you. Merry Christmas. :~))

7:46 PM  
Anonymous Shirley Barnes said...

whoops sorry about that...even though they did not reveal their name there is a lot of truth in what they said....I have read a lot trying to understand what happened to my family and why when she was a child we did nothing to step in and protect Patty from the harm her father was doing to her...

7:57 PM  
Anonymous Shirley Barnes said...

Merry Christmas to everyone....it may not be what we want or what we hope for...but it brings back memories of times gone by...go spend it with someone you like...or someone you love...but don't stay home alone...just don't do that..the older we get...things are just not the same anymore...so many people we have loved are gone..there absense is so evident and takes away from such a happy time of the year...but do it anyway...go find someone to laugh with...May everyone also have a good new year.....one filled with some happy times and less of the sad times...

8:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

mike there are about three different anonymous' here your losing track of whos who. I use anonymous because it is just easy to hit the button than write out my name. If I write my name is someone gonna come beat me up? I doubt it. I'm not tryin to hurt anyone,just the opposite,I'm trying to keep people safe by keeping killers away from law abiding citizens

10:11 AM  
Blogger Mike NQR said...

OK, Anonymous, that's acceptable. I have long figured there were at least 2-3 different people posting as "anonymous." I just needed to see you say so. Still, I don't have to type my name each time, only the first time I responded here.

You still don't have to personally attack Shirley and publicly doubt her relationship to the Columbos. This is not a political debate with the winner getting elected to some high-esteemed office. It's about whether or not two convicted murderers should ever breath free air again. In my first posting here I took the same position you did so can't even fathom your "shut up, Mike" remark a few weeks ago. After reading so many of Shirley's posts, I'm convinced she is a member of the extended family and, just maybe, her position that Patty is no threat to the public at large, has some merit. Please note that I said "just maybe." I can look back and see some of the things I heard, about Patty, in Jr HS and HS as having a different explanation that Patty was possibly compensating for, i.e. her home environment. If true, that would explain the deeper motive behind the killing of her father but sheds no light on killing Mom and dear brother, who she was very close to before the DeLuca affair began. I saw brother and sister together in various places (carnivals, various shopping centers like Woodfield, etc.) and Patty appeared to have once been a wonderful big sister.

Not even a tad of sympathy for DeLuca; not no way, not no how. He should fry!! Never mind that he let me go, Scott free, after my attempt to steal a candy bar one time when I was around 11 or 12. That has zero bearing here and the "bust" cured me of ever stealing again. I would later hang out at Corky's, being so close to home, and saw Patty a lot there, exchanging some small talk now and then. I don't claim to ever having been more than an acquaintance with someone who lived a few scant blocks away and is close enough to my age as to share a few friends. I simply wasn't part of her group, clique, crowd, circle, pick your favorite term.

I have zero personal stakes in the matter as I have lived in Florida for a number of years now. It's always been difficult to associate myself with the town I grew up in and, at the same time, the notoriety it has been stained with one day so long ago. I've known, and once associated myself with, a lot of bad people in good ol" EGV. BUt I grew away from their ilk and have lived a completely clean life since my 20's and am a proud conservative.

Please share, if you will, a bit of your symbolic evidence work and how it fits discussion. It sounds interesting.

11:12 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I said shut up because of one of your posts telling me what to do,not because of your opinion. Deluca should fry but not the other monster? thats assinine. I don't care if Shirley is who she says she is. Too me she is just a person that wants to free two phsycopathic killers. I got a problem with that and thank god alot of other people do also. so you guys can go on with your twisted facination with these two wack jobs. Hopefully they get out and hang around you two and your loved ones so when they don't get what they want again they will destroy the people that had to let them out because they are such wonderful people peace out.....

7:37 PM  
Blogger Mike NQR said...

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11:26 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

again your confusing the anonymous'. You can be a willow if you want and get blown around in the breeze. I will be a solid oak that can withstand anything and remain! Sane people know whats right,insane people don't. FACT

12:46 PM  
Blogger Mike NQR said...

Yadda, yadda, yadda. Oaks break, willows survive. I'm done with you. You can't even stay on subject or answer simple questions. Enjoy your rotten so-called life.

12:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ok whatever you say you spineless weasel.

5:09 PM  
Blogger Mike NQR said...

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6:45 PM  
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12:04 PM  
Blogger Mike NQR said...

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12:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

your a willow blowin in the breeze who wants to let murderers go free but I'm a libtard ok Mike makes sense

3:19 PM  
Blogger Mike NQR said...

Your stupidity is only exceeded by your immaturity. You can shut up at anytime but you continue to attack with verbose idiocy rather than contribute anything to what was once a discussion.

5:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

what are you doing idiot? Just attacking,using some big words so we wont know how stupid you are. well it didn't work, your an idiot!!!! Go tell some other murderers family how you sympathize with them DONKEY

12:57 PM  
Blogger Mike NQR said...

Sympathizing with a person's family is not the same as sympathizing with the person. Idiot!

2:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

read your posts. you said she isnt a bad person and blamed him more. stop changing up!!!!! you phoney loser slimeball

12:50 PM  
Blogger Mike NQR said...

I also said they should both fry. I said that Patty was leading a credit card theft ring using little children. My comment about her being a good person were general observations I made growing up nearby and knowing of her. Maybe you should try to keep things within their context, you "phoney loser slimeball."

1:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

good observations mike!!! a blind person could make better observations!!! you are dumb, please admit it. Things may get better for you if you admit how stupid you are. The only way to go is up when you have the brain of a goldfish.

6:37 PM  
Blogger Mike NQR said...

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8:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

mike your stupid,stop trying to sound smart. Your a donkey,admit it and stop trying to get the last word in. You wont,because your a born loser

1:00 PM  
Blogger Mike NQR said...

I see who it is that made the comment about the last word. Enjoy your Romney/Ovomit Care.

1:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

stop bringing other people into this, you are not going to deflect the fact that your a ass clown. First you call me a liberal,now I got somethin to do with Romney. Make up your mind brainless!!! go find another killer to identify with and dream that you are somehow involved in some important event because your life is worthless

12:48 PM  
Blogger Mike NQR said...

You still around? I find myself becoming bored and fatigued with your trivial talk not even on the subject. You do remember the subject, don't you? It's at the top of the page near some of your colorful previous posts.

1:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

shirley is Italian with the last name "Barnes"; seriously???? Talk about being fake....hey, IJS!!

11:07 AM  
Blogger Mike NQR said...

Names change upon marriage. My mother is Spanish and her last name is LaMont. What an idiot you can be most of the time.

1:01 PM  
Anonymous Shirley Barnes said...

ok boys...I just happened upon your sparring and just had to jump in there...what the hell....my last name is Barnes because many years ago I married a guy from PA last name Barnes...duh....and then I married a guy with last name Duvall.....so I guess I was Italian for awhile then French...then plain old southern me..part Cherokee and part Irish..either one could be trouble depending on what night it is...or I could be every mans dream....kidding,dont take me seriousley...but this bantering around about Patty and Frank is getting very old...its the same ol same ol....aren't you getting tired of hearing it...I am.We all have a life...let;s just got enjoy it...while we can..we're not in jail,but none of have that much tiem left.

11:53 PM  
Blogger Mike NQR said...

Of course you're right Shirley. I did try to explain a little about the birds and the bees to the very wise old professor from Boston, but... Yes, this is getting old. Hope you had a Happy New Year.

7:48 AM  
Anonymous Shirley Barnes said...

The new year came in softly...I was asleep...alone...so what does that mean...I thought it meant this was going to be the year for me...but now I see it is the year for major changes...so after what I have been through lately...I am ready for a new state to live in and a husband...anybody know anyone single looking for a good looking girlfriend,possible long term...I am so ready...to leave this good ol boy town.
Thanks for asking Mike...that was nice of you.

6:12 PM  
Blogger Mike NQR said...

:~))

10:31 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

again a different anonymous. Mike you got off subject,with libtard and willows and all that other garbage you started spewing. You have to get the last word in. You seem lost. Why are you still around? why dont you and Shirley hook up. thats probably why you came here in the first place. trolling for lonely people like you. you two can get together and pump each other up about how Patty is getting screwed over.

12:18 PM  
Blogger Mike NQR said...

Actually I'm married. And just who is it that seems to have an unnatural need to get in "the last word?" It's twice now you brought that up, maybe more.

2:00 PM  
Anonymous Shirley Barnes said...

Wow...that was NOT entertaining...Mr. Anonymous,Mike and me....why are we here doing this bull....I know it isn't because we don't have something better to do....I have to admit I like a good challenging conversation...I think and you think that....and somehow maybe we can agree to disagree or maybe some way in the middle we discover we both have good points and can accept and perhaps even change the way we think about something...especailly when there is so much foul crap being thrown around in here...what happened to peace,creating it,wishing it and forgiving somebody whether you knew them or not....how does somebody that is not even involved in that persons life have the right to hold onto such foul feelings....It was me and the rest of my family that went to pure hell...I loved my aunt and uncle but behind closed doors things happen that even family does not know about...unless...they somehow are privy to it....for us...we were at some time or another...so we know....what happened for years before that night..and we all knew something was going to happen we just did not know when or how it would happen....ya'll...please give it a rest...a burial if you will...let this crap go...Mike I know you had something to say....about the subject and you said it....thank you....and for you from MA....you must be Irish...I know...my grandfather was 100% Irish...a grudge is a grudge is a grudge you just can't let the dang thing go....Please let it go...I would be interested to know what you think about other things...besides what happened the night of May 4,1976 to people you don't know. It always pays to find out as many angles as you can about a story...before you even attempt to make a judgement.

4:42 PM  
Blogger Mike NQR said...

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6:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

well well well now I understand Mike!!!! I am laughing my head off right now!!!!!! you people kill me (probably would if you could) Irish Italian like that makes a difference. wow some really weird stuff hittin the airwaves now cant stop laughin!!!!!!!!! teaparty gingrich my god huh huh huh pukin laughin so hard!!!!!!!!!!

8:03 PM  
Blogger Mike NQR said...

Just can't be civil about anything, can you? Can't spell either. Oh, well, about what I would have expected from one who wouldn't recognize an olive branch if it was whipped upside your laughing head.

7:32 AM  
Anonymous Shirley said...

Should anyone care to carry on a civil conversation with me...I am on facebook... Shirley Ann
Thanks Mike...I agree completely with you.
I was always waiting to hear something new as well...nothing new...just a lot of hate that never went away...I can't deal with hate...I have my own life with people in it that I have to really work on to not hate them...but just try my best to ignore them and keep as far away from them as possible....Please anonymous...allow others to have their opinion without getting into a verbal fist fight....it's not appropriate and it anly fuels a fire that is so desperately trying to go out....It's the end of Jan 2012....for everyone's sake...just let it go. See you on facebook should you ever care to stop by.

9:08 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

not one spelling mistake dumb dumb. go back and look at some of your posts you teaparty wacko.

3:43 PM  
Blogger Mike NQR said...

"hittin" = hitting
"cant" = can't
"laughin" = laughing
"teaparty" = Tea Party
"gingrich" = Gingrich
"god" = God
"pukin" = puking
"laughin" (again) = laughing
Now for a grammar lesson: "well well well" = 'Well, well, well' with the first one capitalized, as all first words in sentences are properly written. But you're a college professor, right? Yeah, right.

Oh, one more thing, THE LAST WORD. Heh-heh.

5:44 PM  
Anonymous Shirley said...

ok....I have had enough of this...Come on MIke....at least you can pull out of this...this is so juvenile...there is nothing positive that is going to happen between you two guys....and all over what? The subject here has been beat to death...so now onto other things to beat it to death....let's have a funeral for the immaturity sick and dying on this Diary.....

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what's with the hair loss and the tramadol?
As for the article which one are you referring to?

9:01 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

you are so stupid its not even funny. never said I was a professor. you are so stupid its scary.You cant even keep track of whats goin on here. any of your so called mistakes are just someone hurrying to tell you what a dipshit you are in the least amount of time. And no he cant pull himself out of this because he has no life. if he did he wouldnt waste a ton of time tryin to point out that I leave a G out of a few words. reason is you are not worth a G. you are a lowlife sap who doesnt deserve a G at the end of words

6:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

'I'm a law professor working on an article about symbolic evidence, but I'm also a former attorney for Child Protective Services...'

7:57 PM  
Anonymous Shirley said...

have had enough of this..This is Moonbeam...over and out.

7:18 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

mike, all we can hope is that you offed yourself

3:48 PM  
Blogger Mike NQR said...

I thought you had enough sniping. You even sniped with yourself there. Pretty sad. I had and still have more important things to do than deal with your ilk.

5:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

but,yet,your back,you pathetic worm. you cant help yourself can you? you bag of junk

7:03 PM  
Blogger Mike NQR said...

I'm sorry you have such a fixation on me. They have meds for that, or perhaps a nice rubber room. Try using a few less commas, mr law professor.

7:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

im not the law professor cant you get that through your fat head? my god your an idiot. you need medicine you cant put two and two together

12:43 PM  
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Roses are red.
Violets are blue.
I'm schizophrenic
And so am I.

6:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This horrific account is proof positive that there is great Evil in the world, and that it can possess people to do unspeakable things such as this.

9:37 AM  
Anonymous Shirley Barnes said...

It's time to give this subject a proper burial and delete it or block from further comment...all we are getting now is spam.
Out of 7 siblings that Mary Columbo had,only 2 sisters and 1 brother remain. All are over 70,one is over 80. If a family of siblings will not even take the time to go see each other or even go to each other's funeral..then what is the point of fighting to keep Patty in prison. She too is a senior and with health problems..she certainly is no risk nor has she ever been,but certainly not now. She burdens the prison system financially and someone on the outside is willing to give her a home...just let it be..and leave this thing in peace..go find another cause to debate..this one is over with.

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12:00 PM  
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5:48 PM  
Anonymous Shirley Barnes said...

Grow up.....this is not about what you think happened or what some others said happened. She was not creepy,but very beautiful as a young girl,very confident..and you were very jealous.
Patricia has been a wonderful help to those women who came into the prison system..she had done a great service for them...things happened for a reason,if not for Patricia Columbo those women would have not received the help they so badly needed..because of people like you my dear. God forgives us all when we ask him to..and she did a long time ago. You should hope he forgives you for being so ignorant and self serving.
Shirley....Patty's older cousin

5:54 PM  
Anonymous Shirley Barnes said...

I am sick of getting spam from this site..obviously no one is monitoring it....I stand beside Patty Columbo all the way....being a family member I know things you do not know....it's been almost 40 years people...her mother would have wanted this...LET HER GO FREE. My Aunt Mary loved Patty...she knew where she came from..but sometimes our lives catch up with us....please find it in your heart to forgive the lost child Patricia Columbo....and let her live out her life as a free woman....believe me...her family..her mother,her father and her brother Michael want this for her...not vengeance..but forgiveness

4:49 PM  
Anonymous mike cahill said...

. look at what this brings out in people . just today I started a new job with a new company and got to talking to this chick painter from the city , , we got to talking and somere the converse got to she killed a guy in self defense but she got murder . then I said to her that sucks . where were you locked up Dwight , she said ya , I said you dint know patty columbo did you . she said ya tris columbo . , I lived with her fo 7 yrs , so I said that bitch killed my best friend . I was like you were bunkmates , she said ya I knew tris real good . when she said tris I knew she was for real . patty gos by tris in the joint . so this person I work with , I said I want to know what she told you about anything . is she sorry , any detail . first thing that came out of her mouth was she has black pupils , like she dosnt have a soal , and she says she told her that , and that if a chick wasn't going to be her girfreind then she somhow get shipped away to another prisn by making shit up against her . so im 2 days in talking with one of patty columbos inmates ffrom 89 to 97 . maybe theres more that she can tell me . also she said patty said that her boyfriend somehow made her do it she was on all kinds of drugs . I don't know im still freaked out I work with this nice 55 yr old black chick nice as hell person . . this was today that we got talking about this shit , so I know il have lots more time to get at lunch with her to get more info about what the bitch is like in the joint , . the thing is its all to freaky for me , the jobs in elk grove , haven't been to elk grove where I grew up in 10 yrs and I meet a co worker that did time with il just say mikes sister couse that's realy in reality who she is to me and as I write this theres a so much anger in me as when there was when I was 13 and this happed it opened a a wound one that I buried at 13 so il post whatever more shit that she will reveal . cool , one more thing , as I remember mike , yz80 , yz100 , his mom was so nice , his dad was so nice to mikes friends they were normal people mike had a tooth ach on april 29 76 while we were at old Chicago , 7th grade field trip . he gryped about it at lunch , it was thurday or whens . that was the last time I saw him , he dint show on may 3rd or the forth , , we all figured he went to disnyworld or something caose he was talking about it , . so may 7th im on my way to baseball practice , and mikes house is that way , so I figure il stop by mikes house to see if hes home or whatever , alls I saw when I turned down his street were elk grove . elk grove . il talk il talk to ya all later

7:39 PM  
Anonymous mike cahill said...

my feelings are boiling as im am once again to try to comprenend this , maybe I just at 13 was told to just sweep it under the rug and go on with your life as so many of freids of mike and me have done , but somehow at 13 to me I just couldnt do that . . ya just go on have a great life , ya well that's bullshit the way freids of mine and friends of mike are going about it , im the one it seems like that really got pissed off about , my other friends there were like you know , I took it personal they didn't they were like wow and all it was to them , I really would like to sit down and talk with them in the future and be able to throw your feelings on the table and get it out . the way I got my feelings out was at 13 I would dedacate evey hockey game I played to mike , . I had so much anger in me that I took it out on the other team . then I got kicked out of hocky , then I took it on myself with drugs . now im 50 and im getting so many memiores from when I was a kid anyway regardless . at 50 you seem to remberer a lot of shit from when you were a kid . this takes the cake metting somebody that did time with her . so im going to talk to my co worker and ask her ? does anybody have any ? that you think you would like to ask . couse right no im preety old styled out . and at 13 that was mikes faverate beer that we used to steal out of garages in elk grove and go to the dances at livly

8:20 PM  
Anonymous mike cahill said...

the whole things fucked up at 13 , 20 , 30 40 , 50 a lifetime oh another thing I can ad is this coworker told that patty got her ass kicked really good when she got in prison. couse she said ya nobody likes anybody that kills there whole family . tomorrow il ask her about that fuck DeLuca which according to her she was more afraid of duluca than her dad . she blames the whole thing on DeLuca like it was all him , maybe it was , . but you don't let something like this happen to your family couse of some asshole it makes no sense or does it DeLuca was a asshole I would go into walgreens and this asshole would be this big phamisist guy like on a raised table , and he would look down at you like he was god and give you all kinds of dirty looks , maybe I should hit hiss up and see if hell talk to me couse the truth is anything a chick would do had to come from some asshole guy , he was pissed off mr columbo kicked his ass , they were on drugs he got paranoid and that's the end of it I think that's what it was they were so freaked out that , that's fucked up that paranoid huh nobody will everknow unless I can somehow get in contact with the asshole I was throwing darts at in my garage at his picture DeLuca from the daily herald arrested pic

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Anonymous mike cahill said...

patty and DeLuca owe the living an explanation or they have no clue of the lives they fucked up , delucas son is working at the same walgreens in elk grove that his dad did , as a pharmisist . how the fuck does that happen walgreens

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Anonymous mike cahill said...

patty and DeLuca owe the living an explanation or they have no clue of the lives they fucked up , delucas son is working at the same walgreens in elk grove that his dad did , as a pharmisist . how the fuck does that happen walgreens

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Anonymous mike cahill said...

mr and mrs colums were young mrs 43 mr 48 , mike 13 , let mikes sister have hell in prison in life and after this life is another hell why dosnt she just kill herself why , because shes still trying to fathom life in a prison , and she knows if she dies its going to be even worst , she knows that for a fact god is not to happy about what she let happen and ashes paying now , but shes also going to pay later , so in reality she has nothing look forword to except putting off the next hell when she dies shes fucked and she knows it

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Anonymous mike cahill said...

are you mikes cousin , as I remember mikes cousin , he had a red shwinn 10 speed and mr columbo went out of his way to get him and mike together , are you marks sister whats the deal

9:29 PM  
Anonymous Shirley Barnes said...

Mr. Cahill...you certainly are animated and frankly your anger about your friend astounds me. 13 is an age of discovery..you and Michael drinking beer together...that surprises me only in a little way,especially since Patty was encouraged to drink from that age openly with her parents when they went out. Things are not always as they seem. As horrible as killing is to kill a family member happens a lot more often than the killing of someone you don't know...passions run deep and wide within families.
You should really see a grief therapist....we as a family everyone of us sought some kind of therapy rather it was a counselor or spiritual..but all of us have come to accept it....it's not about agreeing or disagreeing on how or why it happened...it did and Patty has lived her life in prison learning about how to be an adult getting her bachelors degree,teaching,tutoring and volunteering...she has done wonderful things inside those walls and yes just like in any maximum prison there are all killers in there....no one is better than the other..they all had a sad life before and then it came to an end a gut wreching passionate moment...changed their life forever.
I am also concerned that someone who sounds like they have little education and even less understanding of how community works,the world,the society and how they enteract with each other...education is the key...and lots of psychology classes...it helps us to understand what we could not understand before.
Stop being angry with Patty (Trish)...it's Patty to you because that is how you knew her and guess what that is the person I remember to..yes I have seen her in prison several times and Deluca....the dynamics of what happened was simply a runaway train..and there is never a happy ending to that.
Move on dear....Patty has paid her dues three times over....her family would not want her to spend her last days inside that prison...she has done everything asked of her and more,much more than any other woman ever to be in prison...she is a role model for any woman who comes into prison..and she is 56 now...and just like every other person growing old....health problems make life harder for you...so just leave it alone...go find some happiness in life what life you have left.

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Anonymous Shirley Barnes said...

it's been awhile since anyone made a comment about the case....actually glad to see that people realize they just need to live their life and not be here making comments about something they know nothing of....what happened was inside the dynamics of a dysfunctional family...yes we loved them as they loved us and their friends..but dysfunctional all the same....she's been in prison for almost 40 years....why should anyone be concerned at all if she gets out now...this was a one time family moment...that was contained inside the family...it is not going to happen again..she is not a teenager but old enough to be a grandmother...let her be...she's paid with the best years of her life...she's old now and she's tired..just let her be and don't stand in her way of breathing the fresh air of freedom..don't believe for a second she does not regret what happened..but none of us can go back and change anything in our lives,but we can try and make up for it.I am Trish's cousin...I live in the south where most all of her family lives on her mothers side,my aunt Mary.

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Anonymous Mike NQY said...

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Anonymous m cahill said...

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Anonymous Shirley Barnes said...

WOW....she's been in prison since 1976 dear that is 37 years. She has adjusted to the life she has there....she probably can not even remember much of her young life because as time goes by...we just forget and we only remember the good times..it hurts to remember the bad stuff...for anyone. When she gets out and I hope she will....she will work in a halfway house helping others just like she has done the majority of her adult life...she is no different than the rest of her family...we are all community oriented and most are college graduates or have long time careers that they love..no family is perfect..but we all know that the day will come she will go free...she has her plans when that happens..no she will not join the jet set...she will continue to live a closed solitary life...helping others.

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Anonymous mike cahill said...

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2:57 PM  
Anonymous mike cahill said...

they were just regular Italians livig n Chicago as so many others and including myself so don't give me the mob bullshit . that mob bullshit came from a no 1 scumbag DeLuca don't let them fool ya delcas kid even works at the elk grove walgreens th new one today , how fucked up is that

3:21 PM  
Anonymous Shirley Barnes said...

Believe this....my cousin has had plenty of time to vindicate herself. She knew she would most likely always be there..but like anyone it takes time to accept that. She was just a teenager when this happened and you can't believe everything you read in the paper or hear on TV...yea my family members are pretty neat...all of them in their own way..so was Patty...something happened..but it did not happen over night....it was one thing after another while she was growing up...so she is where she could do the most good and she has....what have done dear...to make this world a better place..going around judging people you don't know is not what I call...Christian..but forgiveness is the command...did you forget that one..most people like you always do.

5:26 PM  
Anonymous mike cahill said...

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8:32 PM  
Anonymous mike cahill said...

what about mikes life , a life that was worth saving , no cant do that hes going to be a threat to us in our 75 grand that were trying to rip off my dad for , ya my dad and my mom they didn't even have those kinds of drugs that fucked up in 76 . there is no answer , iv been trying to figure out my whole life iys not the drugs it was chicken shit ullshi and that's all it was there are no tapes just rumors that patty loved , loved dogs ya right ,I know elk grove cops believe me I know how fucked up they are mike even hated the cops egv finest we all did and still do , elk grove is summed up like this a cop aroung every corner . ya elk grove is a joke that it allways has been were not the city but we think we can fuck you elk gtove residenys with our red light camerasa well get you not stopping all the way and we will fuck you cause that's how big we think we are comared to you now iys all a scam mike should be at home relaxing listening to ozzy and motly crue just like I am able yo do somebody was freaked out like mr columbo was the head of some big crime b bosss bullshit aint true , se what happens when people do drugs ya right iv been on evert\thing and I never ever thought about killing anybody , I just don't get it. stat up . I went to wallgreens with mike and my whole life going to the place was ok , but when me and mike went in there tgther the DeLuca guy really looked ay us like fuck you , like fuck you you little punks ya mike stay outside while I go in and talk to my sister ya that was like april 15 76 ya I remember . so whats the point , the point is she snuffed out 3 people that were on this earth trying to enjoy themselves the columbos were so nice , thir the ony friends parents that I thought wee cool , they went out of thre way to be nice . I sold mrs columbo hockey candy in I think 1975 and she was like the only coolest person that said ok oh . she was a nice person im drunk now , where else can I remember , nothing we cando about it , you kjill you end so end patty , why don't you be like thje new guys kill then kill yourself , no balls I guess

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Anonymous mike cahill said...

he should of been here to play fast pitch with us in the 80s at byrd couse we were allways staying in touch , goingto clage or not , it was allways fastpitch and beer in 83 to 91 , and Michael loved playing b ball , so he could of been there with us drinking beer and chasing chicks from Illinois to fla tell your cousin that

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Anonymous mik cahill said...

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Anonymous Shirley Barnes said...

after reading your notes Mike...I have come to the determination that you took the wrong road in life and I can assure you that Mike would not have been allowed to do the party thing...he would have gone to college and made something of himself...but then as things go....he just might not have done that..he may have just hung with you..which would have been more of a disaster than getting killed. I know the heartache of a family member losing their way and struggling all their life to get by...as for the COlumbo's you have no idea what kind of people they really were...everyone puts on the mask in front of non family members...even family they don't see very often..yea he was a nice man...funny...I loved him..but he did slip up and let his anger come out a couple of times...very scary..to continue down this road of talking about how Patty ended the life of Mike and took away all that could have been...she also took her own away..her mom was dying of cancer anyway and her dad was in the teamsters which is the mob...so you don't know anything about our family...everyone when away from their family let's it all hang out...they are very different than when they are around their parents...everyone.....it's been 37 years.....longer than any other inmate that has ever been in the Illinois prison system and many more have done far worse than she did...child rapists,child killers....who got out after 10 to 20 years..people who went on rampages to rob and killed multiple people they did not even know...now that is a person who will do it again..yet they got out after about 20 years...the system is messed up..but it's time to let her go..she is no harm to anyone...and don't think for a second she does not regret having any part in what happened that night or during that time in her young life.

6:41 AM  
Blogger ColScott said...

Shirley is who she says she is, the crazy cousin of the vicious killer Patty Columbo who murdered her whole family so she could safely screw a married father of 5. Shirley used to have a live site where she threatened to publish a book. The site was called The Ghost of Mary Columbo. She alluded to things in the book chapters she published but was never really clear. She seems to imply that the father was diddling the daughter.

The fact is that this was a case of Folie a deux. Two people sharing a psychosis. If they had never met nothing would have happened. But Deluca played her for sex and she played him for power. In the end people ended up dead.

She stabbed her little brother to death. Rot in Prison bitch!

12:15 AM  
Anonymous Shirley Barnes said...

It's so easy from the outside looking in to misunderstand everything you hear and see. Occassionaly there are actual intelligent comments from people who have actually given it some thought...weighed all the parts,teenager,older man with children,agrressive possessive father,alcoholic mother who was dying of cancer,strict upbringing,both parents coming from abusive childhoods from an alcoholic father, a girl that was brought up having everything she needed and more..treated like a princess,but the discipline that left everyone shaking in their shoes....you think you know because her family was killed...if you would just investigate the Italian family values,those with Catholic upbringing,a father who was ambitious and deep in the teamsters and the times of the 70's......sex with strangers with muliples was rampant..nothing seemed to be taboo..but I can tell you this.....I have met Frank Deluca and he is nothing as he has been presented...for gods sake....he had a high school sweetheart that he had 5 children with and the smallest was just a baby...he was very much in love with his wife...how do these things happen....Patty was manipulative...the way she was treated taught her to lie to get her way,lie to get out of punishment and she was grandiose because her parents made her that way...her daddy was her prince until her brother was born...when she met Frank Deluca..he was a kind man who Patty became infatuated with and from there it is history...he tried to protect her in her antics and she manipulated him to get her way..but can you even say she was really responsible for what she did...she told Frank one thing,her family something else and her friends something else...all a big game...because she was far from being an adult..only in her body which she did not understand it is not the body that will get you what you want in life,but your brain but you have to educate it.....so it is....it happened...many have their thouthts about it...but the truth is...Patty went onto help more people than she would have ever done as a free woman and Frank Deluca was the real loser and his family....and of course all the family members....each and every one living that nightmare over and over again and trying to make sense of it...trying to get past it,not let it define us..but for some it did...I being one of them.
As for the book...after thinking about it,dreaming about it...in my head for years and years...I simply burned out...I said what I had to say. I am 65 now and tired of it...I just want her to go free...I personally don't want to go to my grave with any unforgiveness in my heart....so I made peace with it a long time ago...but she was not my sister or my child...perhaps if she had been I would feel different but I would hope that I would not carry revenge or hate in my heart but would have come to terms with what happened and that we all in our little way...had something to do with it...we could have intervened at any point..but all of us were afraid of Frank Columbo...love him still..but afraid of his wrath.

7:02 AM  
Anonymous Scott said...

I lived on the next block from where the murders took place at the time. Patty was my sister's classmate and came to our house for dinner on several occaisions. This would have been around 1969 or 70. My sister was a bit of a wild child herself, having become pregnant at the age of 14. I don't remember anything unusual about Patty, except that she was pretty, like my sister. I also worked for Frank Deluca at the Walgreen's. I only remember him as the manager of the store. In fact, it was he who interviewed me at the Corky's fast food place next to the Walgreen's. I believe the chain was owned by or otherwise related to Walgreen's. This would have been in 1972-73. Frank DeLuca seemed to me a nice boss. He HAD a temper, but it was not directed at me. Outside of shouting, I never saw anything of a physical nature. I was curious at the time as to why he was missing a finger. (I seem to remember more than one finger missing, but I am probably wrong as it's been many years.) I don't think I would be as forgiving as you, Shirley, but then again I do not know all the facts as you know them. I think I recognize the poster who says his Spanish mother's last name was LaMont. We lived next door to them on Grassmere Rd. before moving to a bigger house on Essex, one street over from Brantwood in 1972. I and my family were horrified when we first heard of these awful murders. I am sorry, but after all these years I find it hard to justify releasing this girl or her boyfriend. The thought that those three people were snuffed out and missed out on so much life, particularly the brother, just about obliterates any "good deeds" she may have done in prison. The thought of freedom could make a very good actress out of a girl who could willfully murder her entire family. Anyone who could do such a thing, no matter what the circumstances, has more evil in them than most people.

12:52 PM  
Anonymous Shirley Barnes said...

Deluca's mother was from Germany. Frank Columbo's parents were both Italian....his wife Mary was from GA...part English,Irish and Cherokee.
As for how terrible the murders were..there is no doubt,but all the particulars are not as reported...the shots were purposely fired out of desperation..Michael was not supposed to be there..the rest was simply to cover up the shooting and get the police off track...how it happened....step by step....it's not what has been printed or testified to....unless I write that story....which by now I just don't care to do it...just thinking about it makes me have too many dreams and I get caught up in it again...I don't want it consuming my life again..unless I got a retainer up front...so the story shall stay buried...Patty was a young woman....a teenager....still immature in her thinking in an adult body...use to seeing her father throw his influence and weight around...she was bound to embrace his personality...if Michael had lived he surely would have ended up either like his father...or a thug...just like a lot of young men ended up during the 70's and 80's...I say this about my own family...because I see that the apple doesn't fall too far from the tree.

3:39 PM  
Anonymous Scott said...

I'm sure that this story is something that is very wearing and taxing on you as well as the rest of your family. I came across this post by accident while remembering hearing about the murders. I've seen some nasty things written here, and while everyone probably has the right to their opinion, there must be a way to "lock" this thread so as to stop the comments. I realize that my opinion differs from Shirley's on this matter, but I think that we should all stop posting and leave this lady alone. As we don't walk in her shoes, we do not know how hurtful some of our thoughts and ideas would be to an innocent family member. Nor do I think that it is outrageous if Frank DeLuca's son is working at Walgreen's today. He cannot be blamed for something his father did. Some comments on that score remind me of mob mentality. Let's leave it rest. Our opinions are only that, and have no bearing on anything here.

7:47 PM  
Anonymous Shirley Barnes said...

Thank you Scott

3:26 AM  
Anonymous mike cahill said...

love , be nice to everybody , really , it took me 1 minite to get to the bottom so i can say what i want to say , , i want them to update this website , it takes to long to make a opinion . that said , so why im here tonight , shirly im very exhoasted to , , i know i keep banging my head against the same old wall and i get nowhere. - i can just imagine what its like for my freinds sister to wake up everyday and know that theres not only walls against her but real peaple against her , its not the walls that are keeping her in its the peaple of illinois , ya a state , , let me just say this , she did somthing she never ever wanted to do , bottom line she was caght up in the moment and it was about the ps , not mike , she , they went to far to shut mike up and thats what till this day i dont get . no witnesses duluca thinking , not patty , it got out of hand. they went there to kill the old man . everybody saw who it was and they killed them to bottom line , it was deluca that was trying to cover what ever ass left he had to cover .keep om writing , keep on writing ok its like patty go stab your brother a million times baby so it dosnnt look like this was my idia , ya ok baby , ya it was all deluca , ya patty was vunerable just as her parents were. it was deluca and patty was a victim in his bullshit , and she lost her her family in a second just becoase of this dont blame it on me asshole , the guy waslike wow im 37 , and i got this teenager cant eveybody see , he gave her drugs , he gave her a job , he kept her under control with the drugs and with his high stature . he was a leading top of the line pharmasist , shirly i here ya im burnt out to . im sure patty is more so . i know how it goes the guy wanted patti to keep on going and thats what he did to try to make it keep going . sorry but its the truth she was 18 he was 37 i dont think this came from a 19 yr old elk grove person. deluca did everything he was like what do we do aboutr mike , deluca shot him , then deluca went to mikes body and pin pricked him a million times to make it look like if we get caught it was all her idia not mine if you pigs are stupied enough to know that it wasnt us . he made her do it , he gave her a job, he wanted 18 , he was 37 , 19 yrs older and a male , come on , it was all him all about him as they say these days , he was livin off the hog , 18 yr old chick , he thought he was a pharmisist high and mighty , he took atvantage of a regular 17 yr old girl from elk grove and thats all there is to it . so i do forgive patty becouse i think she was vunerable and that asshole deluca took advantage of her , she was 16 , then 17 , then 19 , i knew how it was in the elk grove days the older peaple were alot cooler than you were , they had the upper hand , becouse natrally you assume older peaple know more than you , but never do your parents at that age know more than you , ya right they do know way more being 18 dosnt mean you know it all now , they should change that rule like when you 18 you know bnit all now go out in the world and do what everybody else does lives the good life , ya right . its not about me , why becoase even tho i felt the aftershohcks , it was nothing compared to what mike and his mom went thru the dont do that to your mom , weather she had cervical cancer or not , they were witnesses to frank columbos killing , i dont know what kind of crap he put in her head , my opinion it was a

6:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

wheres my 3 by 6 in this world we will all be dead bucking for position just to lay at rest dont you see it t many rats running around all you think you know what your doing fuckks and you have no idia the city sucks ,l your all living off the man you suckers

6:47 PM  
Anonymous mike cahill said...

its ok , wheres the hack is it patti from the can , i know but it was the truth , go ahead send your goons over to my house , , doing time , in macon ga on the work detail along the interstate

6:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

with all this sit going on i missed the hockey game , so from now on thats it all she wrote i quite fuck this `, fuck that , fuck it ,

7:03 PM  

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